Relevance. The second layer seals the decals. - 12th of February 2021. I bought an old kit on ebay, it arrived yesterday. For decals, it's easier to apply decals on a gloss coated surface. Decals need to be applied to a gloss finish. What's better: applying a Lacquer clear coat before or after i apply the Decals on a plastic YF-22 model? Printed my own decals, part from the lighting in the tail as I didn't finish my design in time but the next one I do will have mine in the corrected colour, the kit ones are too vibrant. This is usually the best recoat time. [–]ionizzatoreProphet of the Stash Gods 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children), Exactly, washes and weathering can be applied on a matt surface, but you will obtain a different effect. The downside of using HTV is that sometimes the adhesive can leak around the edges of the decal. The second layer seals the decals. Any thoughts on how successful this would be. Discuss models, figures, Blu-rays and more. Conventional wisdom says to do washes after a gloss clear, because the smooth glossy surface promotes the wash flowing into the nooks and crannies. My first accomplishments of the year: I cleaned my workbench! After applying decals, allow them to fully adhere to the surface. 4 Answers. by valkyriepilot » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:02 pm, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited, Time: 0.241s | Queries: 23 | Peak Memory Usage: 10.07 MiB. I know some of you (mainly the greybeards like me) will enjoy taking a trip down memory lane! I then applied the decal. in this case all you have to do is apply decals onto the plastic and then spray it with the clear. Welcome to the top coat tutorial on the Layman's Gunpla Guide.Top coating is an incredibly easy way to add an extra dimension to your Gundam model. It may look messy going on, but in about 1 hour, it should dry to a shiny, tough surface. Let cure/dry then apply the wraps and lightly, clean then apply the vinyl wraps or decals. As long as you know how the weathering will turn out and you are looking for that specific effect, a matt base is ok, [–]timosaurus-rex[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children). These type of … Enamel or oil washes should be used with acrylic base/clears so that you don't damage the underlying finish while applying the wash. [–]timosaurus-rex[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child). Dates: 13th of August 2020. Rendered by PID 19827 on r2-app-054642598b87dcde1 at 2021-01-02 00:32:20.654303+00:00 running c709bd6 country code: FR. – Gloss top coat can be used after painting your Gunpla model with your desired color, but before applying decals and panel lining. [] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children). You will need to trim all designs closely to avoid having excess clear carrier. Hello there, Yes, you should do clear coat before and after. Blogspam isn't welcome here. Answer Save. Dates: 22nd of November 2020. /r/minipainting - devoted to the art of painting miniatures, /r/dioramas - dioramas, vignettes, and tiny landscapes. Dates: 17th of July 2020. Once your final paint job is dry, you will need to apply 1 or 2 thin layers of varnish or Klear to create a gloss or semi-gloss finish before you apply any decals. Enamel washes are fine. Favorite Answer. Now, apply a top coat and let that dry. - 1st of August 2021. Then apply a second light coat. Then you seal you weathering with a final clear coat. Allow it to cure. If you intend to use the decal on a tumbler, use the smooth versions — these are easier to handle and apply, and you won’t be able to see the edges of your decal after you seal it. Applying second coat of epoxy, after decal. Swap tips and techniques, show your latest builds/WIPs, post kit reviews and discuss the latest kits! also, if you put top coat on before assembling, it gives you tighter joints so that it can hold its poses better, but sometimes, joints may not fit too well because of that. I am making them out of red oak and since they are sailing enthusiasts, I want to put some sailing clipart decals on the top of the chair. Filling Gaps...I'm sure Y'all know this already... 2020 completed builds, many many Vulcans and a few other things. The above picture is after the third coat. Allow decal to dry. Or does it have to be oil paints thinned with mineral spirits. Then I'll do some while the gloss is on, both before and after applying the decals and a secondary gloss coat to seal them. • Prepare the surface: Decals adhere better to gloss or semigloss finishes. Dates: 1st of November 2020. You can purchase decals really quickly via Full Intensity Grafx, then get them in the mail a few days later. the trick is to SAND the joints BEFORE you even apply paint or topcoat. Hmm I may have to buy some oil paints then. It applies to models that have a realistic non-gloss finish including military vehicles, aircraft, ships and some science fiction subjects. Before final clear coat. Built in under 24 hours, lots of corrections to make. If posting a photo, video or link, please include a relevant comment to start conversation. You may speed up this process by using a hair dryer, do not use a heat gun. Lv 7. After decals – the best way to seal your decals after application is – another clear … Then you … A gloss clear coat, applied before you add your decals, will help them adhere much better, and avoid silvering. It’s very important that you first take the time to set up an area … It is recommended that you wait 24 hours for any remaining moisture to evaporate. I've used them a few times, but prefer oil washes as a matter of personal taste. Thanks. Here are my questions: and join one of thousands of communities. HTV on wood is a great solution if you want a special treatment like foil, flock or glitter. The first coat was rough, of course, because it was so thin. May not be the best time to apply decals. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 19827 on r2-app-054642598b87dcde1 at 2021-01-02 00:32:20.654303+00:00 running c709bd6 country code: FR. Don't try to cut it before the top coat dries or it will mess up. /r/plasticmodelling - Showing the best modelling pics from around the web, /r/TerrainBuilding - Terraform your tabletop, /r/Kitbash - mix and match for unique builds. Do I do weathering before or after a clear coat? i do think you meant "disassemble" not "disintegrate"... [quote="valkyriepilot"]i do think you meant "disassemble" not "disintegrate"... quote]. ")(archive.org link), The Ultimate Model Paint Conversion Chart, Authentic Colour Reference Charts sorted by country, iModelKit Free (iOS) paint color and scale conversion app. One thing that everyone must remember if you are using solvent based paints,stains or sealers is that they must out gas for at least 72 hours before applying anything over the top this includes decals. When applied correctly, the decals should look like they have been painted on. Smooth sticker on from the center to the edges, when applying it over a nail. Same principles follows I have always especially after stain apply poly at least one coat. What this does is to change the tone and/or value of the colors I apply as weathering. Then I'll do some more after that secondary coat of gloss is applied and, finally, I'll finish up after the final clear is applied. Let the paint totally cure/dry before applying a poly clear coat to the top deck. First layer of gloss clear coat provides a better surface for your decals and prevent silvering. - 31st of December 2020. Who can run a Groupbuild? Wait about 10 minutes for the first coat to dry. The clear coat before gives a smooth surface so the decal will set properly. Dates: 8th of August 2020. This article will provide general advice about the order to apply the various layers of paint and other finishing layers that are commonly used. by exxecutor000 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:39 am, Post Cure dry—essentially complete polymerization of coating. Apply the 651 vinyl as usual and then (with a teflon sheet between your project and iron) iron the decal for 10-15 seconds. Hey guys! (Build thread here) For this project, I had a custom waterslide decal made for it that I will be installing over the headstocks nitro clear coat. Prior to decals – Most decals will adhere better to a glossy, smooth surface than to a matte, rough surface. Follow up with one to two coats of flat clear (or dull coat for those that use it). Finish off with matt clear or semi gloss over the decals according to your needs. Wait another 10 minutes. The discarded sprue we all ocassionally need. However, through experience, I don't think it's true or I, yet, have to experience this rare occurrence. Is top coat spraying necessary for models pasted with water-slide decals? I have tried to bring together some different water decal nail art ideas in this article. When applying decals, especially water slide decals, keep in mind that they adhere better to a smooth glossy finish, just like panel lining. Unpainted kits can look great with just a nice top coat while painted kits will gain that extra umph. With an orange stick or cuticle pusher, you can cut off the overlapping part of the decal. -- the most complete database of everything and anything about modelling, Sitting Ducks Link List -- a growing list of user-submitted model-related links, The Complete Future (...which answers the eternal question: "What's up with this floor wax people keep recommending? You can use the usual decal setting solutions and solvents to help the decal lay flat. Im assuming you're not painting and simply applying a matte clear over bare plastic. I laid the second coat on a little thicker, and ended up with major orange peel and even plenty of rough spots. See how! its also a good idea to do panel lining before you clear the model. I'm currently building my first bass. /r/modelcars - for your automotive needs. This is the most common reason to clear-coat over the top of decals. It also helps protect the paint underneath from the solvents in the wash. Michael Rinaldi, however, never uses a clear coat of any kind. Here's how I do it: Preshading - coloring - first clear coat gloss - decals - second clear coat gloss (or semigloss) - weathing, e.g. White Decals washing - third layer of clear coat. 1 decade ago. Be sure to apply a very thin coat and use a low PSI of 15-20 lbs. - 1st of August 2021. Your model may have a flat finish, but you can coat decal areas with clear gloss, apply the decals, then return after they are dry and apply a clear coat with the desired sheen. Preshading is also a technique of weathing, which is applied before any clear coats. If leaving your boards natural wood, brush or spray minwax polyurethane on the wood board tops, let cure for 24 hours and then lightly sand with 400 grit sand paper. A matt or flat paint finish may be the best look for your model, but reduces the points of contact for the decal and can leave small pockets of air beneath the decal. /r/MaschinenKrieger - gritty future war machines. A bank of images mainly for weathering reference and other such inspiration, PrimePortal Reference Albums - Armour, Aircraft, Ground Forces, Naval. With most clear-coating paint, you’ll be able to get right to work after you apply them. So to answer directly to your question: you do it between two layers of clear coat. ''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so'' I've also heard of people who do not seal the weathering, because they wanted to be able to clean it off and redo it in the future. Anyone! If you post a box or haul picture, include pictures of the contents! Another word of caution - Make darn sure that your decals have dried at 24 hrs before applying your top coat - If you don't, the cover (gloss or dull) will lift and destroy the decals just like a paint stripper (been there, done that, got the T-shirt) Many airbrush the whole model, but you can just add spots of gloss to the decal area if you prefer. We want to see sprue! If you've never posted before, contact the moderators first. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. [–]Gewehr43So many kits, a bit more time. Applying Decals to Nails Apply clear base coat or nail polish to your nails and allow them to dry. As title says - just wondering if you guys would recommend applying decals on car body before or after the glossy coat layer. Not a good time to apply decals. Clean your area and cover the floor. Useing a decal setting soloution such as micro set or soveset will also help. The short form: Post something that you would like to discuss! Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Why? [–]Gewehr43So many kits, a bit more time. Do I do weathering before or after a clear coat. Just be sure that the layer of future is completely dry (let it dry for a day or two). Because panel lining is best done on a smooth glossy finish! use the following search parameters to narrow your results: /r/modelmakers rules -- Please read before posting. This will get rid of any … I always recommend a coat of gloss clear or Future on the model before applying decals. Tamiya's flat coat says that it can destroy decals. Don't get depressed when you see other's models, with the advent of modern phone cameras with HDR filters etc., they probably don't look like that at all, my case in point as follows... 1/350 Akagi 2 of the 9m cutters; 4 of the 12m launch and wayyy too much red-bull & PE parts, New to this group..tell me what to improve on my next build ! Clean your airbrush and tips after this step using either warm or … The coat layer might protect the decals from unsticking over the time but on the other hand Im worried if applying the actual coat layer on the decal wont damage/move/distort the it and ruining entire paint job, since they are attached to model with a water only /r/gunpla - if you love your Gundam models! on your air compressor. If necessary, brush a layer of setting solution 2 on to the decal then leave it alone to dry thoroughly. The key point to remember is that the base coat paint and gloss coats must not react with the solvent in the wash. That is, if you use acrylic paints and an acrylic gloss coat (Future/Pledge, etc) don't use an acrylic for your wash. When the decal is completely dry it is normal to seal it with a coat of varnish or Klear/Future. First layer of gloss clear coat provides a better surface for your decals and prevent silvering. I am considering putting a coat of varnish on first to seal the wood then apply 2 or 3 coats after the decal has been applied. by exxecutor000 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:21 am, Post Afterwards, instead of immediately applying dull coat or a flat clear, apply one thin even coat of a gloss or semi-gloss clear. The clear coat is Krylon Triple-Thick Cyrstal Clear Glaze 0500 (recommended by a Model Maker at work). Hobby Shop Representatives Do you work for or otherwise represent a hobby shop or online retailer, and are you about to post a link to your store? Enamels should be safe to use with future (that is basically an acrylic paint). Now you can apply the weathering to an even surface, without getting the fluid soaked under the decals or similar flaws. Gloss coating after applying decals is to protect the decals from the flat coat. /r/brushforhire - Model commissions and builders for hire. Scalemates! Add one light coat of clear automotive urethane to the decal. /r/SciFiModels- Live long and prosper at this Sci Fi related sub! - January 9th 2021. Post The subreddit dedicated to the hobby of plastic model kit building and painting. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. by lazidude999 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:39 pm, Post (self.modelmakers), Should I apply washes and panel lines and all other types of weathering before or after I coat my model in a clear coat? I do my gloss coat with future floor polish and I don't think I would be able to use an enamel wash on that. It's an MJT/warmoth J bass with a matching body and headstock in charcoal frost. … If you intend to use the decal on a wine glass, use the precise versions — that will minimize how much extra decal you see around the edges of your design. This cup has one coat of epoxy. This video shows the final coat of epoxy to seal the decal and create the smooth as glass finish th... Epoxy Coating Tumbler Designs Tumblers Lava Lamp Decals Cricut How To Apply Glitter Silhouette. Thanks for Reading. (I use future floor polish), [–]FlyingLowSHTomcat Guy 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (0 children). sand off just enough material so that you'll have enough clearance for the paint that will be applied. After clear coat for weathering with washing. Before any type of clear coating you must make sure that the decal is 100% dry both on top and underneath. Some coatings continue to polymerize for a long time after initial cure, becoming harder and tougher with time. Can I do washes using enamel paints thinned with thinners? Some solvents may still be present and slowly migrating out. by valkyriepilot » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:58 am, Post /r/modeltrains - Rolling stock and landscapes and more. The solvent in the wash will attack the base and gloss coats. In the box was this, the 1982 Tamiya catalogue. 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